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Title: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on May 21, 2008, 01:39:20 PM Hi pftq,
I have tried to create the "Flare Unit" Effect with your help the other day but the effect didn?t work. I may need more assistance with that. Here is what I have so far: <Effect name="Flare Unit"> <Param name="PlayerID" dispName="Player" varType="player">1</Param> <Param name="Duration" dispName="Duration" varType="float">1.0</Param> <Param name="Srcunit" dispName="Center Unit" VarType="unit">default</Param> <Param name="Flash" dispName="Flash" varType="bool">true</Param> <Command>trMinimapFlare(%PlayerID%, %Duration%, vector(xsVectorGetX(kbUnitGetPosition(%Srcunit%)), xsVectorGetY(kbUnitGetPosition(%Srcunit%)), xsVectorGetZ(kbUnitGetPosition(%Srcunit%))), %Flash%); </Command> </Effect> Please let me know what you think I should try next. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on May 21, 2008, 04:43:19 PM Did it crash all triggers or just this one effect?
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on May 22, 2008, 12:02:25 PM No crash, all other triggers still work fine.
Just this trigger doesn't work (maybe because it is the last effect on the file). Random22 sent me this effect last night, and I will check it later on today. What do you think? <Effect name="Flare Minimap on Unit"> <Param name="PlayerID" dispName="$$22301$$Player" varType="long">0</Param> <Param name="Duration" dispName="$$20510$$Duration" varType="float">1.0</Param> <Param name="SrcObject" dispName="$$19160$$Unit" varType="unit">default</Param> <Param name="Flash" dispName="$$22492$$Flash" varType="bool">true</Param> <Command loop="" loopParm="SrcObject">trMinimapFlare(%PlayerID%, %Duration%, kbGetBlockPosition("%SrcObject%"), %Flash%);</Command> </Effect> Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on May 22, 2008, 05:33:09 PM You want to use kbUnitGetPosition; the Block position uses a different ID than the triggers require. The confusion is what originally caused the Advanced Triggers Set to force designers not to delete units (deleting units cause the block ID to differ from the Unit ID).
kbUnitGetPosition(1*%SrcObject%) It might work as well. The thing is that it has to be a vector object you are using. What I meant by other triggers not working is whether having this effect "froze" all triggers on your map. Whether it's the last effect on file has nothing to do with the problem. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on May 28, 2008, 04:37:26 PM The first effect I used didn't cause any problem.
The effect that Random22 sent me works great. Do you think there is still a problem with it? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on May 28, 2008, 04:40:19 PM What is the effect now - you haven't shown me.
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on May 30, 2008, 04:45:38 PM Still the same:
<Effect name="Flare Minimap on Unit"> <Param name="PlayerID" dispName="$$22301$$Player" varType="long">0</Param> <Param name="Duration" dispName="$$20510$$Duration" varType="float">1.0</Param> <Param name="SrcObject" dispName="$$19160$$Unit" varType="unit">default</Param> <Param name="Flash" dispName="$$22492$$Flash" varType="bool">true</Param> <Command loop="" loopParm="SrcObject">trMinimapFlare(%PlayerID%, %Duration%, kbGetBlockPosition("%SrcObject%"), %Flash%);</Command> </Effect> By the way, are you going to participate in the AOE3 Custom Scenarios Contest? Check it out at Scenario Design Forum at Heaven Games. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 01, 2008, 02:39:05 PM Yes - I replied to that above... please check. I strongly recommend against the use of BlockPosition.
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 13, 2008, 10:10:20 PM pftq,
I have just signed up for your forums, But maybe you can help me a bit. I am working on this for Moshe, It doesn't work but maybe you can see somehing wrong. <Effect name="Flare Minimap on Unit Type"> <Param name="PlayerID" dispName="Player" varType="long">0</Param> <Param name="Duration" dispName="Duration" varType="float">1.0</Param> <Param name="Units" dispName="Unit Type" varType="unit">default</Param> <Param name="Flash" dispName="Flash" varType="bool">true</Param> <Command loop="" loopParm="SrcObject">trMinimapFlare(%PlayerID%, %Duration%, kbUnitGetPosition(1*%Units%), %Flash%);</Command> </Effect> Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 14, 2008, 01:43:12 PM Hi, I appologize if my advice is not entirely foolproof - just a warning here as my memory is a bit foggy. :)
But just so we're on the same track, below is my logic. I remember there were two distinct types of area: Vector - Generally use the vector(float x, float y, float z). ex. the original flare effect: trMinimapFlare(%PlayerID%, %Duration%, vector(%Position%), %Flash%) - where %Position% is by default (0,0,0) Quantity - Not sure how to name these, but pretty much (x,y,z) without combining them into a vector. ex. Move from Area trUnitMoveFromArea(%DstPoint%, -1, %AttackMove%, %PlayerID%, "%UnitType%", %Radius%) - where %DstPoint% is default (0,0,0)* ** (0,0,0) alone is not a vector; functions such as xsVectorGetX(vector xyz) will not accept it unless it is put into the vector() function first. Seeing as the flare effect requires the location as a vector, as is kbUnitGetPosition/BlockPosition, it should work. However, I would also try vector(kbGet...). One thing though - why do you have: loop="" loopParm="SrcObject" *nvm - forgot about the center unit :P But you would need to change the variable name accordingly. Also, what actually happens with the code? Does that one effect not work or does it cause all conditions/effects in the same trigger to freeze up as well? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 14, 2008, 01:50:26 PM Alright, I asked the guys on aom.heavengame.com's forums and this is what they gave me.
<Effect name="Flare Minimap on Unit Type"> <Param name="PlayerID" dispName="Player" varType="player">1</Param> <Param name="Duration" dispName="Duration" varType="float">1.0</Param> <Param name="Units" dispName="Unit Type" varType="unittype">default</Param> <Param name="Flash" dispName="Flash" varType="bool">true</Param> <Command loop="" loopParm="Units">trMinimapFlare(%PlayerID%, %Duration%, kbGetBlockPosition("%Units%"), %Flash%);</Command> </Effect> I think this will help. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 14, 2008, 01:54:28 PM Hm - I'm pretty sure it should be:
varType="unit" instead of unittype but you can give it a shot. You also want to keep the ""+1*%Units% - it clears the id to an integer value as a float id such as 1.0 often messes up the function. Again, what actually happens with the trigger? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 14, 2008, 05:16:11 PM I really don't see what you're saying, Can't you type it out for me please?
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 14, 2008, 08:02:36 PM <Effect name="Flare Minimap on Unit Type">
<Param name="PlayerID" dispName="Player" varType="player">1</Param> <Param name="Duration" dispName="Duration" varType="float">1.0</Param> <Param name="Units" dispName="Unit Type" varType="unit">default</Param> <Param name="Flash" dispName="Flash" varType="bool">true</Param> <Command loop="" loopParm="Units">trMinimapFlare(%PlayerID%, %Duration%, kbGetBlockPosition(""+1*%Units%), %Flash%);</Command> </Effect> Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 15, 2008, 07:30:20 PM Why varType="units"? Does it like get the units ID and Flare on its ID? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 16, 2008, 11:55:55 AM varType="unittype" was never used in any other triggers. It was always varType="unit". This sets the field/variable type.
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 16, 2008, 12:02:13 PM Yes, unittype is used in units in area... It listes all units + Stuff like all, and infentry and Calvery etc.
Random22 Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 16, 2008, 12:19:17 PM This is Units in Area. It uses varType="unit"
<Condition name="$$22299$$Units in Area"> <Param name="DstObject" dispName="$$22300$$Center Unit" VarType="unit">default</Param> <Param name="Player" dispName="$$22301$$Player" VarType="player">0</Param> <Param name="UnitType" dispName="$$22302$$Unit Type" VarType="string">Unit</Param> <Param name="Dist" dispName="$$22303$$Radius" VarType="float">10</Param> <Param name="Op" dispName="$$22297$$Operator" VarType="operator">==</Param> <Param name="Count" dispName="$$22304$$Count" VarType="float">1</Param> <Expression>trCountUnitsInArea("%DstObject%",%Player%,"%UnitType%",%Dist%) %Op% %Count%</Expression> </Condition> Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 16, 2008, 03:31:23 PM Hi Guys,
Thank you Random22 for working on this trigger and thank you pftq for helping. I need this trigger to create many flares on the mini map all at once at all locations for specific Unit Type. So if I have 20 Musketeers around the map I need a flare for each one of them producing 20 flares all at once. I am assuming we can base this trigger on Unit Type in area except that the area is the entire map, and this effect needs to run in a loop, find all the Units for the specified Unit Type and flare all of them. Hope this clears it and thank you for your help. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 16, 2008, 05:49:46 PM Then you are using the wrong approach. What you need is 20 different flares (or however many units there are of that type). You can't use just one flare command for that and it also requires kbunitquery.
Something along the lines of this: Code: <Effect name="Flare Unit Type in Area (Center Unit)"> Let me know what exactly happens with this - it's the right approach but I may have forgotten something (it's been a while). Title: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 16, 2008, 07:40:05 PM I hate you pftq...jk...Still...WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BEE SOOOOOOOO SMART????? (That trigger worked)
:o Random22 8) Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 16, 2008, 08:03:41 PM pftq,
Can you help me with this trigger? Code: <Effect name="Kill All Units In Area (Center Unit)"> Help, :'( Random22 :'( Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 16, 2008, 09:00:17 PM What are you using it for? A much better solution (less memory-intensive) is to just use Change Units in Area. Change the units to an object you don't use much (like an Invisible Target) and modify it to 0 HP or lifespan.
Title: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 16, 2008, 09:08:21 PM Q Pftq,
This effect will make the units fall instead of disapear. LOOK, ;) Code: Random22 Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 16, 2008, 09:13:58 PM I see.. and the Damage Units in Area doesn't work right? Forgot about that. The code should be similar to the Flare. Except of course we start killing them instead of flaring their locations...
Code: <Effect name="Kill Units in Area (Center Unit)"> Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 16, 2008, 09:48:44 PM Sweeeeeeet Thanks, pftq.
Right now I am working on a new trigger set and putting these triggers in, But I am geving you credit for these triggers. Thanks,
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 16, 2008, 10:04:33 PM Dear pftq,
Ok, I modded your triggers and this is what I got. Code: <Effect name="Make Units in Area Invulnerable (Center Unit)"> Thanks, Code: Random22 Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 16, 2008, 10:06:42 PM Looks good. :)
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 16, 2008, 10:27:52 PM pftq,
Got any trigger ideas? Im almost out. I've got like 35 in the set. (10 Conditions, 25 Effects). Do you see anything wrong with this? Code: <Effect name="Grant Resources For All"> Thanks ^_^ Random22 ^_^ Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 17, 2008, 09:43:16 AM Yes - do not use variables. Otherwise the trigger can only be used once (because you can't declare variables multiple times).
Use QV or just type it out for each player. Also you're missing a ';' Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 17, 2008, 09:49:15 AM What do you mean by 'Don't use VarTypes'...
?????????, Random22 Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 17, 2008, 10:43:22 AM Quote me - I don't know what you're refering to.
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 17, 2008, 10:46:15 AM Yes - do not use variables. Otherwise the trigger can only be used once (because you can't declare variables multiple times). ThisUse QV or just type it out for each player. Also you're missing a ';' Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 17, 2008, 12:53:47 PM Don't use variables. In your case, you tried to create a variable i.
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 17, 2008, 01:21:26 PM Again
HUH Where is it ??? :P Random22 :P Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 17, 2008, 02:01:04 PM Random22,
You have a variable here (the ?i?): Quote <Command>for(i=1>8){<command> Wow, you guys were busy and that ?Flare Unit? trigger looks amazing Pftq. Thank you for your help Pftq and for your help too Random22. All these commands in the trigger, is that C++ or some variation of it. Where can I find literature about it so I can learn the commands and the syntax? Do you know if Blizzard is using the same trigger syntax for War Craft III? I have a question about the ?Flare Unit? trigger. Quote <Param name="Object" dispName="Center Unit" varType="unit">default</Param> <Param name="Dst" dispName="Radius" varType="string">10.0</Param> <Param name="UnitId" dispName="Unit Type ID (Optional)" varType="string">-1</Param> <Param name="FromPlayer" dispName="From Player or 99 for ALL" varType="string">99</Param> <Param name="ForPlayer" dispName="Flare Player or 99 for ALL" varType="string">99</Param> I am assuming that ?From Player? is referring to the unit type belonging to a certain player or to all players, am I right? Can I use 0 (zero) for Gaia player? I am also assuming that ?For Player? is referring to the player number that we are issuing the flare for, right? I have a 520 X 520 map. What should be the radios if I want this effect to work for the entire map and my center unit is in the center of the map? Is it going to be 260 radios? Is that how it works? That is the longest trigger I have ever seen, lol. Great job guys. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 17, 2008, 02:17:52 PM Any time Moshe,
The Flare units in area workes for gaia with 99 (I think) But after looking at it it will. And I made a Make units in Area Invulerable. Ive had cases where I needed that :P Quote :o Random22 :-X Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 17, 2008, 02:37:35 PM Quote The Flare units in area workes for gaia with 99 (I think) 99 is for all players. Doesn't it work with 0 (zero)? - Is there a way to know if a player Resigned? The game should set the player as ?Player Defeated? but it's not. - Can we take the "Flare Unit Type in Area" effect and use that method to create an effect that Changes Unit Type in area when One Unit Type is at a certain distance from another Unit Type? That should work for multiple cases just like the flare unit type can flare 20 units at once. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 17, 2008, 03:52:31 PM Look at the code...
Code: <Command>if(%FromPlayer%==99) {</Command>^_^ Random22 ^_^Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 17, 2008, 04:45:03 PM Moshe - all your guesses are right. And yes, Gaia works as 0.
The syntax is not really any language specific... Java, PHP, AS3, etc all use the same style of code. The commands are just more trigger commands in AOE3. (like tr...) Longest trigger as it may be for you, there are longer trigger codes in my Advanced Trigger Set. :P Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 17, 2008, 05:27:52 PM pftq,
Where do you get all the kb and ui and tr codes for AOE3?? ????????????, Random22 Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 17, 2008, 06:05:28 PM Dig through the ES's trigger and random map files.
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 17, 2008, 06:14:41 PM Lol,
I thought it would be like a link. :D Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 18, 2008, 01:13:59 PM Is there a way to know if a player Resigned?
The game should set the player as "Player Defeated" but it's not. - Can we take the "Flare Unit Type in Area" effect and use that method to create an effect that Changes Unit Type in area when One Unit Type is at a certain distance from another Unit Type? That should work for multiple cases just like the flare unit type can flare 20 units at once. For example, let say I want a Janissary and a Horse standing right next to each other to be converted to a Mameluke. Currently I can do it with existing units, but I would like to have a Global effect that makes that conversion every time this condition occurs in the entire map without pre-selecting the units. You can probably do it by re-using the "Flare Unit Type in Area" and taking it to the next step. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 18, 2008, 02:27:28 PM Depending on how your scenario is set up, you'd have to develop a trick/system to determine whether the player is still active. If the current "Player Defeated" does not work, you're unlikely to find another command for it.
Your second request is already do-able with existing triggers from the Advanced Triggers Set: #1: QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit) to detect the Janissary and save the unit's ID (NOT unit type ID) to a QV #2: XS - Units in Area and plug the QV ID in as the center unit. so basically #1 finds your janissary and #2 uses the janissary as the center for Units in Area. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 18, 2008, 03:12:42 PM Quote Depending on how your scenario is set up, you'd have to develop a trick/system to determine whether the player is still active. If the current "Player Defeated" does not work, you're unlikely to find another command for it. When a player resigns from the game "Player Defeated" is NOT being set. Did you have the same problem with AOM? If so, what did you guys use to determine if the player is still active? Quote #1: QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit) to detect the Janissary and save the unit's ID (NOT unit type ID) to a QV #2: XS - Units in Area and plug the QV ID in as the center unit. so basically #1 finds your janissary and #2 uses the janissary as the center for Units in Area. Makes sense. How would this work if there are two or more units in the area? Would only the first unit work? How do I run this in a loop? Just a simple ?Loop? in the first trigger and firing the second trigger after that? For lag reducing purposes, would it be better if I split the map to several zones and have separate triggers for each area? or can I just do this for the entire map? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 18, 2008, 06:23:32 PM Entire map.
There is an index feature iin the QV Set - the index determines if it's the first unit found etc. You can have it loop and the index increase by one each time. That's what I meant for the player defeated; you would have to come up with an alternative (ie.. find something unique to the player that stops working once resigned and attach a trigger to that). Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 19, 2008, 11:08:39 AM Quote There is an index feature in the QV Set - the index determines if it's the first unit found etc. You can have it loop and the index increase by one each time. Is that mean that I need to create a new effect for this? Or can I still use the 2 effects you mentioned above? Random22, I think this is a task for you. Lol. My knowledge about this script language is still limited. Can this task be performed via ONE customized effect? Quote That's what I meant for the player defeated; you would have to come up with an alternative (ie.. find something unique to the player that stops working once resigned and attach a trigger to that). The only way I can check that is if there was a condition that checks if all units are Idle (villagers and Military), but I don?t think we have a condition for that. Can such Condition be created? Can we check if units are idle? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 19, 2008, 11:36:09 AM No new effect. Just add in QV Modify (Add 1 to the QV each time you loop)
Then for the index field, you'd put trQuestVarGet("Name of your QV") Of course, to stop the loop, you'd want the condition to be QV Check (make sure your QV is never higher than the number of times you want to loop) There is no point to creating a new customized effect if it can be done in 3 or so existing effects. As for checking whether units are idle, you can use "XS - QV Set Distance to Unit". Wait a few seconds and if the QV # is the same (ie distance hasn't changed) then you can assume it hasn't moved. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 19, 2008, 12:20:23 PM Quote Your second request is already do-able with existing triggers from the Advanced Triggers Set: #1: QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit) to detect the Janissary and save the unit's ID (NOT unit type ID) to a QV #2: XS - Units in Area and plug the QV ID in as the center unit. so basically #1 finds your janissary and #2 uses the janissary as the center for Units in Area. There is an index feature in the QV Set - the index determines if it's the first unit found etc. You can have it loop and the index increase by one each time. Just add in QV Modify (Add 1 to the QV each time you loop) Then for the index field, you'd put trQuestVarGet("Name of your QV") Of course, to stop the loop, you'd want the condition to be QV Check (make sure your QV is never higher than the number of times you want to loop) I am not following you. I am not sure I am familiar with the index feature in the QV Set. I never used QV with an index before. Do you have an example for that? Quote As for checking whether units are idle, you can use "XS - QV Set Distance to Unit". Wait a few seconds and if the QV # is the same (ie distance hasn't changed) then you can assume it hasn't moved. But I don?t know what units the player has and where he has them. Do you know if the condition ?Player Active? works and what it is for? What about resources. I can check how much resources the player has every 15 seconds and store them into a QV. If the amount of resources hasn?t change then the player must be idle. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 19, 2008, 12:33:24 PM Yup that's what I meant - use other conditions to "guess" whether the player is resigned.
There is no index feature in the QV. The index feature is in the QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit). You use the QV (a number) to determine the index of the Area effect. Set up the trigger as I have shown and you'll have a better understanding of it (test it to figure out what's going on). Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 20, 2008, 09:32:09 AM I will be able to make it!!!!!
Its Random22 :P Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 20, 2008, 10:45:13 AM Quote Your second request is already do-able with existing triggers from the Advanced Triggers Set: #1: QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit) to detect the Janissary and save the unit's ID (NOT unit type ID) to a QV #2: XS - Units in Area and plug the QV ID in as the center unit. so basically #1 finds your janissary and #2 uses the janissary as the center for Units in Area. There is an index feature in the QV Set - the index determines if it's the first unit found etc. You can have it loop and the index increase by one each time. Just add in QV Modify (Add 1 to the QV each time you loop) Then for the index field, you'd put trQuestVarGet("Name of your QV") Of course, to stop the loop, you'd want the condition to be QV Check (make sure your QV is never higher than the number of times you want to loop) There is no index feature in the QV. The index feature is in the QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit). You use the QV (a number) to determine the index of the Area effect. Set up the trigger as I have shown and you'll have a better understanding of it (test it to figure out what's going on). . I still don't follow how the Index plays out here. These are the parms for "XS - QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area" effect. Code: <Effect name="XS - QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit)"> Are you saying that the QV in this effect is actually an array because of the associated Index? Do I run it once or do I put it in a loop according to the number of units on the map? If so, how do I bump the index by 1 every time? Shouldn't I change the Index parm from a "String" to QV? But that requires modifying the effect itself. Then how do I make the 'XS - Convert/Change Units in Area' effect work? After all the QV here has no Index. I am assuming I need to pass the value from the QV with the index to the QV without the index but I don't have an "Effect" for that. Also the "Center Unit OBJECT ID" here is a string NOT a QV which means that I need to modify this effect. Code: <Effect name="XS - Convert/Change Units in Area (Center Unit)"> Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 21, 2008, 09:21:45 AM Don't modify any effect. Just set this up in the scenario editor.
#1: QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit) - QV: QVID (The QV Name you want to save the UNIT ID to. Nothing to do with index!) - Index: trQuestVarGet("IndexQV") - etc Fire Event #2 #2: XS - Units in Area. - Center Unit: kbGetBlockID(""+1*trQuestVarGet("QVID")) QV Modify: QVID +1 Fire Event #1 Understand now? Set it up that way and play with it. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 21, 2008, 07:22:23 PM Help, Im lost...
:-[ :o Random22 :o :-[ Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 24, 2008, 03:36:14 PM I think we misunderstand each other, lol.
I have 50 horses around the map that can be mounted by various units. So if I bring any Janissary next to any one of these horses I want to change the horse to Mameluke and destroy the Janissary creating the "Mounting" effect. I can do that with 50 triggers of "Change/Convert Units in Area" with the horse as the center unit. Now I want to take this further and have 1 trigger that can handle all these horses. Bumping the Unit Type by 1 every time via the "QV Modify: QVID +1" doesn?t help me because I want to allow horse mounting only for specific units (e.g. Janissary). So I need to have one trigger that runs in a loop 50 times and that finds out the 50 Object Id's (for the horses) and stores them into one QV with an index (1-50). I then need to fire the "Change/Convert Units in Area" 50 times, where every time I will bump the index by 1 (with the same QV) in order to fire this trigger with a different Object Id. So, can I do it that way? Can I utilize Indexes in triggers? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 24, 2008, 06:22:22 PM You're not bumping the Unit Type up by one. You're bumping the search index by one. So it'll do use Horse 1 as center, Horse 2, Horse 3, etc.
Have you tried it yet? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 25, 2008, 12:27:17 PM Quote You're not bumping the Unit Type up by one. You're bumping the search index by one. So it'll do use Horse 1 as center, Horse 2, Horse 3, etc. Have you tried it yet? OK, Now I got you lol. Quote #1: QV Set Unit OBJECT ID in Area (Center Unit) - QV: QVID (The QV Name you want to save the UNIT ID to. Nothing to do with index!) - Index: trQuestVarGet("IndexQV") - etc Fire Event #2 #2: XS - Units in Area. - Center Unit: kbGetBlockID(""+1*trQuestVarGet("QVID")) QV Modify: QVID +1 Fire Event #1 I thought that - QV: QVID (The QV Name you want to save the UNIT ID to) and the - Center Unit: kbGetBlockID(""+1*trQuestVarGet("QVID")) is the same QV. So if I understand it right it should look like this: Code: Trigger #1: "Find OBJECT ID for all horses" But in trigger #2 we are missing the QVI Index. This trigger has no index so bumping up the QVI index won?t do any good. I need a trigger to copy QVH(QVI) into another QV to make this trigger work. Any idea how to do that? I will test these triggers when it all makes sense to me. There is no use to do this otherwise. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on June 25, 2008, 06:19:12 PM Test the triggers first and you'll see... :P
QVI has no reason to stray to Trigger 2. QVI is just a number.. an index. QVH is the UNIT that Trigger 2 uses. QVI in Trigger 1 decides WHICH UNIT is saved to QVH, which is then used in Trigger 2. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on June 30, 2008, 11:22:51 AM Hi pftq,
I spent many hours this past weekend trying to solve several issues that came up in the scenario I am working on now. All these issues are as a result of CSO bugs. It appears that none of the ?Move? effects work for Gaia units online. They only work for single player scenarios. In addition to that I had problems with the ?Change/Convert Units in Area (Center Unit). This effect changed all the units in the entire map ignoring the radios specifications. After several hours I realized this happened when the center unit died. Once I added ?Is alive? conditions that one got fixed. So I didn?t have time to test your triggers suggestions. I need them for my next scenario (if I ever find the strength to continue working with this buggy Editor). I found a way around the ?Gaia Move? triggers but I wasted the entire weekend trying to solve these two issues. I still have one issue left: ?Change/Convert Units in Area (Center Unit)? works for one Unit ID at a time or all of them. I would like to use it but to exclude buildings. Either that or find a way to use it only for Military units. Any idea how I can do that? I don?t think there is a Unit Id for Military units, is there? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on June 30, 2008, 03:14:43 PM Hey pftq,
How do I make the triggers like "Make Units In Area Invulnrable (Center Unit)" To Points like... "Make Units In Area Invulnrable (Point)"? ??? ??? ??? ??? Random22 ??? ??? ??? ??? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on July 01, 2008, 02:59:50 PM *** I am posting this again just in case you missed it ***
Hi pftq, I spent many hours this past weekend trying to solve several issues that came up in the scenario I am working on now. All these issues are as a result of CSO bugs. It appears that none of the ?Move? effects work for Gaia units online. They only work for single player scenarios. In addition to that I had problems with the ?Change/Convert Units in Area (Center Unit). This effect changed all the units in the entire map ignoring the radios specifications. After several hours I realized this happened when the center unit died. Once I added ?Is alive? conditions that one got fixed. So I didn?t have time to test your triggers suggestions. I need them for my next scenario (if I ever find the strength to continue working with this buggy Editor). I found a way around the ?Gaia Move? triggers but I wasted the entire weekend trying to solve these two issues. I still have one issue left: ?Change/Convert Units in Area (Center Unit)? works for one Unit ID at a time or all of them. I would like to use it but to exclude buildings. Either that or find a way to use it only for Military units. Any idea how I can do that? I don?t think there is a Unit Id for Military units, is there? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on July 02, 2008, 05:56:37 PM @Random22: Look at ES's area/point triggers. Areas are defined as either coordinates or vectors as I explained earlier in this thread.
@Moshe: Gaia movement has always been that way since AOM; it has never changed. I'm pretty sure there are ways around it (convert back and forth etc). For Change/Convert, that is wrong. It works for a Unit TYPE, not a single Unit. Same with all my other triggers; I never limit it to just that. There is an ID for everything. Look at the IDViewer.txt in the Docs folder of my trigger set. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on July 03, 2008, 01:35:17 PM There is no way to get around the lack of Gaia movement other than teleporting but that is not the same. My solution is to add a computer player to the scenario that can be controlled via triggers (without the AI Start). In this current scenario I am using your custom effect "Convert/Change Unit ID in Area (center unit)" heavily for some special effects and I will give you a credit for that when I release it. Yes, I am using the Unit ID. I have Unit ID from and To. The problem is that I want to change/convert military units only (all types) but I cannot find a Unit ID for all military units. I used the ID Viewer and it?s not showing any unit id number for ?unit? and for ?military?. In some of your effects it is possible to choose "unit" or "military" from a list of units. How do you do that? How can I use that for "Convert/Change Unit ID in Area (center unit)"? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on July 05, 2008, 10:16:17 AM It is in the ID Viewer. I've used it a number of times.
Look for the Military class. It will probably be towards the bottom of the stack. Note that it's case sensitive and must be exact. Title: Re: Need help creating a "Flare Unit" Effect Post by: MosheLevi on July 08, 2008, 02:14:42 PM The ID Viewer I am using doesn't have a list.
I have to type in the name. I tried unit, Unit, military, and Military and the ID Viewer didn't find any of them. I also checked the Protoy.xml file and couldn't find the unit id's. Are you using ID Viewer with a drop down list for units? If so can you list it here. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on July 08, 2008, 07:46:29 PM Just so you can get an idea of the ID structure, here is the screenshot of the ID Viewer:
https://www.pftq.com/pq/creations/aoe3/editor/IDViewerEffect/AOMExample.jpg The screen is from the original downloads page: https://www.pftq.com/Advanced_Triggers/ So you can try searching the entire range and look towards the bottom - the screenshot above shows most broader classifications toward the 900 tier. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on July 09, 2008, 10:59:16 AM So do I search for "ALL"? And then look through the ID?s?
The Id Viewer for AOM is very different than AOE3. By the way, how do you figure the unit class id's? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on July 09, 2008, 02:44:14 PM There is a file called Protoy. It has alll 1462 protounits.
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on July 09, 2008, 03:43:29 PM Quote There is a file called Protoy. It has alll 1462 protounits. But it doesn't have 'Unit' or 'Military' (already checked that). I have to know what is the Unit Id for 'Military' (it's very important). Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on July 09, 2008, 03:51:46 PM I dont know...
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on July 09, 2008, 09:47:14 PM Did you not look at the screenshot??!! :P
https://www.pftq.com/pq/creations/aoe3/editor/IDViewerEffect/AOMExample2.jpg Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: MosheLevi on July 10, 2008, 12:30:52 PM Yes, I looked at the screen shots, I was just not sure if I need to type "All" to see all the ID?s.
I was able to find the "Military" ID by leaving the name empty. I had to go through all of them, lol. I finally found it, it is 1479 ID. Thank you for your help, the ID Viewer is a great effect. I am currently working on the most creative scenario I have ever made. I don?t think I can top that one, so maybe I should retire after that, lol. By the way, do you have TAD expansion? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on July 10, 2008, 10:59:35 PM The "All" is a class. The screenshot looked up the id for "All" - it doesn't show "all the IDs".
Strange it didn't find the ID via search - there's virtually no string functions in the game though. :P Sorry I don't even have AOE3 anymore. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on July 11, 2008, 12:18:28 PM Hi pftq,
I've modded the point triggers and I am wondering if this is right, Code: <Effect name="Kill/Delete All Units in Area (Point)"> Would that be right? Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on July 11, 2008, 06:15:35 PM Mmm why not just test it and find out?
Two things I can see immediately wrong: trUnitDelete - why is %Flash% there? What's the point? It should always be false anyways. trUnitSelectByID(trQuestVarGet("ffweho")); - this will die. IDs cannot be float variables, which QV is. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on July 12, 2008, 02:44:15 PM No... For trUnitDelete() It takes False Witch Kills Them And True Witch just makes Them Disappear. And a bool when it is given to the command, it replys as "true" or "false".
That make sence? And I don't see what your saying on the point 2... Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on July 12, 2008, 07:12:46 PM You might want to make the toggle Kill/Destroy then to keep in sync with ES's wording.
Quest Vars are, by nature, float variables. IDs cannot be float variables - but only integers. Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on July 13, 2008, 10:33:23 AM Integers means...Whole numbers?
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: pftq on July 13, 2008, 11:55:50 AM http://lpsolve.sourceforge.net/5.5/integer.htm
Title: Re: Need help creating a ?Flare Unit? Effect Post by: Random22 on July 13, 2008, 10:36:17 PM Ohhh :D
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